Episode 33

The Truth About Being Ghosted

That modern-day disappearing act that leaves you spiraling, questioning everything, and wondering if you’re secretly cursed or if there's something wrong with you. 

In this juicy episode, Kate calls BS on ghosting culture — and spills the real truth about why it happens, what it says (and doesn’t say) about you, and how to turn the whole experience into an opportunity to grow more into the queen that you are.

You’ll learn:

  • Why ghosting is never about your worth
  • What relational dynamics are at place when you're attracting ghosting
  • How to stop chasing him, and start belonging to you
  • What ghosting is revealing to you 

If you’ve ever been left on read or someone you really liked disappeared into thin air - and you're stuck playing the story on repeat, this episode is for you. 

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Kate Harlow is the founder of The Unscriptd Woman, the creator of The Expanded Love Coaching Method, and host of The New Truth podcast - ranked in the top 1.5% globally. With over 15 years of experience teaching, coaching and facilitating transformational retreats worldwide, Kate has helped hundreds of thousands of women break free from outdated relational patterns, old patriarchal ways of thinking and unspoken rules to live by. 

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Transcript
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You can choose to walk around with the story that

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you've been ghosted and then go tell all your friends. Woe is

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me. I'm a victim. I've been ghosted again. All these men are

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ghosting. Or you can be the one who has that healthy, thriving

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relationship internally, isn't waiting for somebody else to

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validate them, but gives it to yourself. If someone does not

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respond to you, you can bless them and set them free, send

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them a final note. You know, whatever, but also know like you

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know, even if someone disappears for from your life for a while,

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you may hear from them again, but it's like you decide what

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matters to you and what's important to you in relationship.

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Hello, beautiful. Welcome to the new truth. Kate Harlow, here I'm

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hanging out in my beautiful little burrow in Nairobi, Kenya.

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My cottage is heaven. I'm still in love with it. In case you

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were wondering how it was feeling. It's my second week

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here, and I just feel like this is my soul's home. I'm so I just

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feel so alive here. And I if you listen to the episode last week,

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if you haven't listened to it, I go back and listen to it about

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trusting your heart, because my saboteur was so loud before I

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moved here, my, you know, she was coming up with all the

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reasons why I should stay in Greece, should stay in Athens

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all the things I was giving up and, you know, sitting on the

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other side. And I'm sure I said this exact thing last week, but

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I'll just keep reiterating it. Sitting on the other side. I'm

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remembering your body and your heart. Know the way, and it

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doesn't make sense to the logical mind. It doesn't make

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sense to the scripted woman you've been taught to be. It's

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not going to make sense. She's going to want to do bold things.

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She's going to want to do courageous things. She's going

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to want to do weird and wacky things that make no sense to

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your mind. But your mind doesn't need to get on board because

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you're it will catch up later. What needs to get on board is

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your your your whole being and your actions aligning with those

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pulses in your heart and those truths in your body. So yeah,

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couldn't be happier just feeling so so grounded and so connected

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and have made so many friends already. And just it's just like

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this feels like such a fertile, rich place where there's so much

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nature and so much love and so much creativity and

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collaboration. So if you're longing for some of that, come

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visit me and excited to have this conversation with you today

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about being ghosted, the truth about being ghosted, because I

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hear this term so often, and you know, as some I can even use it

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in a in a calm, in a humorous way, like, are they ghosting us

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or whatever? It's like, kind of a funny term, but you know, when

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you think about it, people have been bad at communicating since

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the beginning of time, but probably, I think, with the

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modern age of technology, I think communication skills have

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plummeted, and the reason for that is because most people are

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so overwhelmed. We are over stimulated. We are overwhelmed.

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We are over connected. Like, if you actually think about it,

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when I grew up and I'm dating myself for those Gen Z's on on

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the on the line, you're not gonna even I said on the line

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like you're on a phone Gen Z's who are tuning in today, you're

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not going to know what I'm talking about. But there was a

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time where we didn't like, I think there was a time where my

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family didn't even have an answering machine. We just had a

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phone, just like, call your buddy a phone with a cord

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attached to the phone. You know, there was a time we didn't have

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portable phones. You couldn't walk around the house and talk

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on the phone. You had to sit in one spot and you didn't have

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call display, so you didn't know who was calling. You just had to

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answer all the calls or ignore all the calls. And if, if there

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was no answer machine, they couldn't even leave a message.

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So like, this is what the world used to be like it used and

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before, you know, I don't know what year phones were invented,

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but before that, there were no phones. So think about that for

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a second in contrast. And that wasn't that long ago, okay, I'm

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44 so that was like the first, I don't know, 15 years of my life,

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not 15, maybe 10 years of my life, where we didn't have a

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portable phone, we didn't have an answering machine. That was

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like 35 years ago. 35 years ago. That's not that long that that's

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how communication used to be. You know, you'd see people when

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you'd see people, you'd bump into them at the grocery store,

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you'd see them at school. You'd see, you know, the neighborhood

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kids, but you wouldn't be in touch with 10 million people at

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once. So I didn't plan to start with this, as I don't usually

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plan much of what I'm going to say. But this is the first thing

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that cut that's coming through is that there's such expectation

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and such such demand on people responding immediately, and if

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they don't, it means something. And you know, with WhatsApp, you

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have blue two blue check marks, you know, if someone's seen your

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message. And you know, people freak out if they don't get a

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response, or if they don't hear from people. But I just think.

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Like, actually tune into how busy you are in your life, and

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how many places people can message you, and how many people

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are messaging you every day, on Instagram, on Facebook, on

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email, on texting, on WhatsApp, on Viber, on Voxer on frickin

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those ones that are aren't encrypted or whatever, but I

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don't know the names of all of them, but they're, you know.

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Think about all the places that we can be reached nowadays, and

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all the open loopholes, those messages that are open, that you

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you know, maybe haven't gotten back to. I forget to respond to

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people all the time. You know, I certainly have my, probably my

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top five people who I talk to every day, my mom and dad, my

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Mariana. That's it. That's those. Actually, those are the

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only people I talk to every day. Changing a little bit with my

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girls that are in Kenya with me. But it's like, do you have your

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regular people that you're just used to responding and going

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back and forth. But then you have the outer, you know,

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everybody else, and it's like it is so overwhelming. How many

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people can get in touch with us from so many places? On one

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hand, it's an extraordinary gift, right? It's an

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extraordinary gift being in 2025 being able to travel the world,

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meet people all over the world and stay in touch, right? To be

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able to have friends that live everywhere, how cool is that?

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And simultaneously, it's incredibly overwhelming. So if

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you think about how busy you already are, and then all of the

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things you have going on, and then all of the people who are

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trying to get in touch with you, it is absolutely insanely

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unrealistic that we put expectations on ourselves to

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respond immediately or even within a day to people's

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messages. And also so disruptive, right? If you would

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just have your phone by you all the time, and you're like

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constantly in other people's worlds, messaging that person,

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that person, this thing, this thing. I mean, how disruptive is

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that to being grounded in yourself and in your life. And

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then on top of that, you know the the expectation to to

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respond when our lives are so full, and the expectation we

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have on other people to respond to us. So the reason ghosting

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hurts, and you know that term is such a funny term, I'm sure,

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like some tick tock or some, I don't know, someone made it up

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online, and it just went viral really fast, because that term

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did not exist. I think it's been around for like, maybe 10 years.

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But the term ghosting is so funny because, first of all,

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it's a victim it's a victim mentality. It's like, I have

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been ghosted. This thing has happened to me. I'm a victim of

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this thing. But the reality is, you know, we only it only has

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impact on us if we make meaning of it and take it personally,

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right? If someone doesn't respond. And of course, when you

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have romantic feelings for someone, your your desire to

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hear back from them is going to be heightened, yes, your

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expectation, your the pressure to have them respond in a

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certain way and a certain time, because you're if you they're

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not, your saboteur is going to be making meaning of that,

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right? So it's not the actual thing that hurts, it's the

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meaning that you're making of the thing. Because here's the

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reality, there's it doesn't mean anything. I have a great example

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of this. I wasn't ghosted, but I guess you could look at it this

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way. I met this okay, I want to call them a couple. There were

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not a couple. Woman and man, very cool. Loved them, both from

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Kenya, or they live. They both live in Kenya. Think he's from Kenya,

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but they were very cool. They live in Nairobi, and we had a

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sweet chat at the end of the wedding, Elizabeth's wedding I

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went to at Ola pangi farm here in Kenya when I first got here a

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couple weeks ago. And they were so cool. We had the best

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conversation. And he took my phone number and was like, hey,

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we'd love to connect you when you're in Nairobi, whatever. And

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I woke up the next day and I was like, Oh, I wish I got his phone

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number. Like, I hope I hear from him. He was so cool, not because

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I want to date him or anything like that, but you like that,

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but just because they're they were both so cool, and I'm

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expanding my community, and I really enjoyed their energy, and

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I thought it would be so great to stay in touch. I didn't take

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his number. He didn't he messaged me yesterday and that

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it's been like, three weeks since the wedding, or two weeks

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since the wedding, I don't know how long, but, you know, no part

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of me was like, Oh, he's ghosting. He's disappeared. It

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was just like, okay, he'll message me, or he won't, and

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I'll bump into him again, or I won't, and her and, you know,

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connect with this cup. Okay? Not a couple. I keep thinking

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they're a couple because they were together at the wedding,

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but I'll either reconnect with them or I won't. There's this,

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like, level of non attachment that I always carry, even when

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I'm inside of a relationship, right? It's like, I've got me,

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so no matter what happens, I've got me. I don't have to worry

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about somebody else, you know, somebody, if I'm dating someone

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and they take three days to text back and we've been dating for

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three months, okay, that's not aligned. I like consistency.

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Consistency is important if i. In a romantic like, actually a

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committed relationship with someone, but also it's, it's not

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personal if I don't hear back from them, right? So that's the

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practice is to know that, first of all, most people suck at

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communication. Have you noticed? And I wonder why? Like, did

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anybody teach us anywhere along the lines how to communicate?

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Well, no, no one taught us how to communicate. No one taught us

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how to navigate all the big feelings we have. No one taught

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us how to navigate when, you know, I'm so, let's say a lot of

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instances, I think people ghost because they've moved on to

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someone else, or they're not interested anymore, and they

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they feel bad saying that, or they don't want to be

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uncomfortable with going through like having that conversation.

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Maybe that person grew up with a mom or a dad who didn't ever it,

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didn't, ever let them have their own truth, right, who gaslit

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them and told them, you know, they couldn't have what they

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wanted, they couldn't do what they wanted, and never let them

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go their own way and follow that inner compass. So if someone

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grew up with that, and they feel like everyone they meet is going

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to convince them to go against their truth, what's easier

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trying to convince people or just disappearing, right?

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Someone who's like a people pleaser even could do that

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because there's they're so nice and kind that they don't want to

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face someone's upset. They don't want to have someone try and

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twist their arm, because if they're not solid in themselves

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and they're living from their patterns, that's what happens

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where most people are out there in relationships, dating from

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patterns. So if the alternative is someone's going to change my

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mind, or I'm going to have to be really uncomfortable and witness

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someone be devastated by this information, I'm just gonna

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disappear into the bushes. That seems way easier, like I get

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that doesn't that make sense like that when, when you

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actually think about it like there's a deeper reason why, you

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know, okay, some people are just extreme narcissists, and they

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actually do not give a fuck about your feelings. They're

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just in their own worlds, in their own everything's about

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them, which that's that exists too, and if that's the case,

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this is really good information to know, right? Okay, this

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person doesn't care about me or my experience, so that therefore

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they're actually not aligned to be in even a friendship with me,

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if they're not caring or considerate of my own

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experience. But this is so important, right? It's like you

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can't know that to be true, that they don't care about your

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experience. Some people do care, but they just suck at

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communicating. They don't know how to be clear and solid in

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their truth, but also be kind and loving and hold space for

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your experience and your feelings. So the reason why

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people don't communicate and they just disappear is because

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it's it just seems easier to them for some reason, but it

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doesn't mean anything about you. So the real reason why something

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like ghosting people disappearing and not

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communicating really hurts. And I get it. I mean, I know that

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there's so many stories of people who've been in

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relationship with people for a long time, and then they just

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disappear like that's devastating. And the reality is

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when you have your own back, which obviously the new truth

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every episode is about, when you have your own heart, your own

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self, and you are with you at all times, even when somebody

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else disappears, an adult cannot be abandoned. It's only the

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child part of you, the Wounded Little girl inside, that feels

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abandoned, and if she doesn't have your heroine in my speak

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your the sovereign woman inside of you there to comfort her in

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those times she's just going to be waiting for the next hit from

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the guy, waiting for that person to come back, longing for

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someone else to fill that void, right? It's only the wounded

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part of you that feels abandoned. Because, yeah, of

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course, when we are ghosted and it deeply hurts, if most of the

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time we feel abandoned, it's an abandonment wound, or it's a

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like, am I not good enough? Am I not worthy? And what does your

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saboteur do in that instance? Most of our saboteurs take this

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thing that happened and use it as ammunition against ourselves,

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right? We use it to punish ourselves further. We use it to

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be like, See, you're not worthy. That guy just disappeared.

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You're you know, you suck. No one's ever gonna love you. Or we

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use it as ammunition against men or women or whoever you're

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dating, but it's like we use it as ammunition. See, there's no

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good men out there. There's no good men left on planet Earth.

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Everyone's assholes. Nobody cares anymore. This is just the

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dating world. This is just what's out there. And then you

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add it to your collection of stories, and then what do you

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keep getting the same thing, because you believe that to be

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true, and therefore that's what you attract, right? But

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something else is possible here. This is a moment. This is an

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opportunity for you to clean up your side of the street. Wait.

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Where did I have expectations? Right? Where was I not allowing

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this relationship to organically unfold? If I am attached to this

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person showing up in the way I want them to so I feel better.

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That's not love, that's attachment, that's a little kid

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attached. I need you to give me something so that I feel good,

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so that I know that I'm worthy, so that I know that I'm lovable,

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so that I know that I have value. I need you to keep

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showing up, right? And so the sovereign woman, like you're

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always looking through two lenses. The little girl looks at

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that situation is like, this thing happened to me. Oh, my

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God, it's this. This thing is happening everywhere. Everyone's

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ghosting everyone, and it becomes this big drama, and it's

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like, Oh, I've ghosted again. And it goes to your story bank,

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and you tell everyone, and you complain about men and or the

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sovereign woman sees it as, oh, okay, thanks. This is really

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great information. Thank you for showing me who you are. Thank

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you for showing me your capacity. Thank you for showing

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me your desire and your truth. And you know, yes, it wasn't in

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the way that I would have preferred, and I'm not in charge

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of how every human being on planet Earth behaves around me.

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What a setup right to feel bad about ourselves. So this is an

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opportunity for you, your sovereign woman. So the little

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girl feels what she feels, and this is not to negate your

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feelings. You let her feel her feelings, and you let her vent.

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You let the saboteur vent all the stories that she's made up

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about men, about you, about life, about dating, about being

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alone forever with nine cats. You let your saboteur vent in

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your journal. Get it out, get all the stories out. Then what

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do I feel underneath? What am I believing about myself? What am

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I? How am I making this mean something about myself? What

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does this mean about me?

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And then you feel your feelings. If you want to have a big cry,

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if you want to move the energy through your body, put on some

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music and move the energy through your body, and then you

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connect with that sovereign woman who is always inside, you

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know, and this is the work that I do with women, is learning how

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to live from what I call your heroine. She's the sovereign

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woman. She's always available to you. And if you're waiting for

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some guy or some romantic partner to make you feel safe in

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the world, to feel, make you feel validated or loved or

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worthy or enough, or any of those things. It it will never

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happen. You will never have that because it doesn't come from

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outside of you. It can only come from inside. And this is the

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only way that you will be equipped for a thriving

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relationship, is if you are solid with this relationship

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inside the relationship between the sovereign woman, your

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heroine, and that Wounded Little Girl and your saboteur, that is

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the most important relationship. It is the root of all

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relationship challenges. So now you let the sovereign woman

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speak to that little girl, and you let her know that she is

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safe because you've got you I had the stomach flu yesterday,

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like, or like some African bug, I don't know. I was so sick, and

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the whole time, I was holding myself, and I was like, I love

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you. I've got you. Thank you for healing. Thank you for moving

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this through my body, like I was talking to my body, talking to

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my heart, talking to myself, rather than letting the little

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girl in savagery take over and be like, Oh my god, I'm alone in

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a foreign country and I'm gonna die like I didn't feed the fear

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based stories. I fed love. And you always have that option to

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feed love to yourself, so you can choose to walk around with

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the story that you've been ghosted and then go tell all

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your friends. Woe is me. I'm a victim. I've been ghosted again.

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All these men are ghosting, or you can be the one who has that

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healthy, thriving relationship internally, isn't waiting for

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somebody else to validate them, but gives it to yourself. If

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someone does not respond to you, you can bless them and set them

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free, send them a final note. You know, whatever, but also

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know, like you know, even if someone disappears from your

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life for a while, you may hear from them again, but it's like

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you decide what matters to you and what's important to you in

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relationship and in relationship, this is actually

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something my my bestie, Mariana, spiritual teacher, used to say

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it is up to the most conscious person in the relationship. Carl

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wolf was his name. He's since passed. But it is up to the most

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conscious person in the relationship to hold the

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consciousness in the relationship, right? So even if

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you're dating and your three dates in, check yourself, right?

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If someone is disappearing, look at your text thread, sit with

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the energy of, was it the sovereign woman who is in

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convert conversation with this person, or was it the Wounded

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Little girl who was like trying to get more trying to prove

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herself, trying to shape shift, trying to impress him, trying to

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get more attention, trying to like? Were you anxious in that

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dynamic? Because this is also another important piece to the

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because really ghosting is an avoidant tendency. People, the

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avoidant pattern is just as painful as the anxious pattern.

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It just looks different, right? To an anxious person, avoidance

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looks real cool. It's like, Oh, my God, I wish I could be

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avoidant. You know, it looks less painful. People that are

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avoidants are in equally as much pain internally. They. Strategy

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just looks different on the surface, right? So somebody

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who's ghosting you, who does not know how to communicate, hey,

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thank you so much for the time we had together. It just is not

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feeling aligned for me. But I wish you all the best, or I

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really appreciate all the time. And here's what I love about you

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and but you know, I'm clear that this is not for me moving

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forward, whatever, like, that's you. That's great modeling that

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you can do if you want to communicate to someone else. But

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you know, if you look at someone who is an avoidant, they look

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like cool as a cucumber, like they don't give a fuck. And

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maybe, if they have some personality disorder, maybe they

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are not connected to giving a fuck. But a lot of people do.

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I've met so many avoidants. I've worked with so many avoidants,

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and they're just like, they go into freeze mode and they shut

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down, or they flee, they flight mode, they flee and they run.

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But like, not because, not because they're an asshole, not

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because they hate the other person, not because they, you

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know, think you're unworthy, or whatever, because they are

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something has triggered them, and they don't know how to move

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through it, right? Most people are just a bunch of like wounded

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kids walking around with patterns, survival patterns,

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trying to do relationships. So I encourage you to learn how to do

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relationship really well, and so you can be the model and help

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other people break down how they do relationship. So, you know, I

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think of Patricio like he changed so much in our

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relationship. My last partner of three years in Greece, he was so

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he was more of an avoidant. When we met, he told me he's never

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been friends with an ex. He'll never be friends with an ex. And

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he told me that our whole whole relationship, and now we're

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like, dear friends, and he's like, so loving and so

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supportive. And he's like, wow, I never thought I'd be able to

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do this, but it's just because he moved through his patterns

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being in charge, and now he's living his life with his heart

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open, right, grounded in who he is. He's not trying to protect

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himself from anything. So the same is possible for you, and

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you can help other people heal their wounds just by you being

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different. So if you keep attracting avoidant people who

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disappear, it's time to look at your side of the street, because

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most likely, you've been in your anxious attachment style, which

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gets deeply triggered by the avoidant attachment style. So if

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your anxious attachment style is up, that is like, like, why

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isn't he texting? Why isn't he texting? Oh, I'm gonna send

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another message. I'm gonna send it out. I gotta get this thing

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from him. I gotta need to get closure. I need to get this

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thing from him, or I'm not gonna feel better. It's this like,

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anxious energy. I need to get this thing to feel better. There

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is a wounded little girl who has the wheel, and it is so

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important that you rebuild and repair your relationship with

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her. This is how you have secure attachment style. I hear so many

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women say, I just want a secure partner, and I'm like, Baby, you

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become secure within yourself. You build that healthy secure

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attachment relationship internally, and you will attract

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someone else who is secure too. That's the secret. It's not

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looking for the safety out there. Certainly women have been

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brainwashed to look for the safety in men. And there was a

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time not that long ago where our safety was in being in

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partnership because we had no rights. But we live in a very

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different time, and your safety is no longer in a relationship.

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Your safety is in a relationship with yourself, and so when you

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are have been ghosted, quote, unquote, when somebody's

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communication has shut down. First, know that it's not

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personal. Second, let your saboteur have her vent. Let that

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little girl have her cry, have her feelings, share the anxiety

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she's feeling, what she's making it mean. Move the energy through

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some embodiment. Practice, yoga, meditation, dance, move. Just

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move. Movement. Sound, singing like just move the energy of the

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feeling, crying, screaming, whatever you need to do, and

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then connect with that sovereign woman who's already inside of

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you. She was always inside of you. There is a very loud

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airplane flying over my place right now, but the microphone

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usually doesn't pick up background noise sounds like

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it's about to land on my house. Okay, it's gone. She's always

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inside of you, and she's there waiting for you to to let her

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heal your heart, lead your life, make new choices, choose new

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partners, choose new people. She's waiting to help you. Like,

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that's the beauty of the work I do with women. It's like, the at

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the beginning, they're like, Oh, I just have to find myself. I

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have to find her. Like, that's not there anymore. Lost who I

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am. And it's like, no that that sovereign heroin. Woman is

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inside of you. She's just waiting for your permission to

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let her lead your life. And so when this little abandonment

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wound gets activated, or big abandonment wound, when you feel

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unworthy, unlovable, when you hate men, when you whatever

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arises when you've been. And ghosted, quote, unquote, when

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someone's disappeared in their communication, you can choose to

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stay in the story and be in the drama of it. And that's how we

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are the creators of our own reality, that we become like our

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lives become like drama reality TV shows. And that's how most

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women bond. I've talked lots about that on the new truth, but

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like most women are out there bonding by complaining and

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talking about drama to their friends. Oh, here's the thing

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that happened to me at work and happened to me in my

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relationship, and happened to me dating and happening and blame,

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blame, blame, blame, drama, drama, drama. You can choose

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that path. Okay, that's the path of this habitat, which is like,

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I'm not responsible for my experience. I'm a victim to

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life. Life is just happening to me. I'm constantly in chaos. Why

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is my life so chaotic? Why do I feel so bad? Well, it's because

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you're creating a reality TV show in your head, because your

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life is a reality show. Or you can start to take full

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responsibility for your life, right? And ghosting is such a

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perfect example of this, right? It's like, take full

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responsibility. Like, where did I have expectations on this

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person? Like, what meaning Am I making of their behavior?

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They're just being who they are, and I'm learning who they are.

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And I had a fantasy about who I thought they were supposed to

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be, and I made up the story that they were this amazing person

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that was this and the other, and they were the love of my life,

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and they were the one and and I projected that fantasy story

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onto them, and then they stopped showing up for me, and they

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start, started changing their behavior, and I was mad because

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they didn't match up to the fantasy in my mind of who they

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were versus the sovereign woman's like, Oh, okay. You

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communicate once a week when you're in a committed

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relationship with someone, I'm not really into that. I prefer

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consistency. I don't mean codependency. Codependency is

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toxic, where you're constantly, like, waiting for a response,

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versus consistency, someone who's thinking about you and

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checks in, you know, in response to your messages. You know, in a

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reasonable time, especially if you're in a committed romantic

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relationship. So it's okay to have that's those are standards,

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right? But you're the sovereign woman isn't trying to contort

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the person who's not showing up into the person who should show

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up and being mad at them for not being who we projected them to

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be like. It takes a long time to get to know someone. How someone

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shows up on the first couple dates changes when their shit

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starts to come up, right? Most people are in the honeymoon. On

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the first few days, the honeymoon is a fantasy. It is

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the fantasy phase. So if someone is different, this is the story

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I hear all the time about ghosting. Oh, he showed up so

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fully. He was so romantic. He was amazing love bombing. He was

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amazing in the first like month. And he was obsessed with me. And

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it was this, not the other codependency. Did fantasy? All

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of that is fantasy. And they were like, get also hooked in

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you're obsessed with each other, texting all day, every day. Not

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healthy, right? Like, all of that stuff is not healthy.

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That's only a little princess in a tower that wants that kind of

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love. It's not actually healthy. We think it is, because that's

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how it happens in the movies. It's just like, oh, consuming

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Oh, like, You complete me. Oh, like, that's that's not a

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sovereign person, but they're in fantasy, and then they change,

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and we're mad that they changed, but like, who they show you in

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the beginning is not who they are. That's why you can't know

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if someone's the love of your life in the first five minutes

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or five dates or five months. You can't know, maybe, on some

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soul level, that you had a really intense soul connection,

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maybe, like, let's say, 30 years from now, you're like, I knew on

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the first date, but you can't actually know how it's gonna go.

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You know when people say that, that they knew there's like,

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they knew there was something special here, but they cannot

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know how the human experience is and how you're gonna navigate

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life challenges, and if this is actually a compatible

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partnership, and if you're going to grow together through

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everything that life brings, you can't know that. You can't know

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that till later, and you don't need to know that. And how

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boring, if we just predetermine what our future is going to be,

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rather than be in the excitement and the beauty and the juice of

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letting your life organically unfold. My God, I didn't even

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know anything about Africa freaking other than I took,

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actually, I took African dance classes, which is funny, with

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amazing woman named Jackie from Cameroon in Vancouver, like, 15

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years ago, I took African dance lessons for like two years, and

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I was obsessed with it, and then I completely forgot, and nothing

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on my radar about Africa and and now I live here, and I'm over

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the moon like so aligned. You don't know what the future

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holds, and you don't need to know, because guess what? My

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love, it's way more beautiful than you could ever imagine. If

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you let go of that script and you let life carry you, and you

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let so someone disappears from your life. They were not meant

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to be in your life anymore. If they actually stop texting and

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you never hear from them again, okay, bless them and set them

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free. Write them some letters. Tell them thank you for the

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experience. Thank you. Thank you. Be an appreciation for the

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things that you did that felt good, but then take this space

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as information. Information as to how they do relationships,

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what they have capacity for, who they really are, be appreciative

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of what was, and then open yourself to what's next. Because

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what's next is better, but it's not better if you stay in the

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story. It's not better if you stay in the dramatization of the

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ghosting, if you're still in the Oh, my God, I was ghosted and

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like, Oh, these every men ghosts. And online dating is the

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worst, and men suck, and there's no good men left on planet

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Earth, or women, or whoever you're dating, it is if you stay

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in the story, you're limiting yourself to being in the script.

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You're missing out on the magical adventure that your soul

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is longing for your soul is longing for love in every form,

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not just in a romantic relationship, a life you love,

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love within yourself, love within your community, love

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within your friendships, love within your soul, expression and

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create, creative expression in the world, there's so much love

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available to you, and it's not going to come in just One

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person. And if you are codependent, if you have a

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mundane life that you don't love, and then you have guys you

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date, or relationships, and that's your everything. That's a

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setup. That is the biggest setup. But when you are full

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inside of yourself, when you are aligned inside of your life, you

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won't perceive it. If someone doesn't text you back, you won't

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even frickin notice. You won't notice. Like, if I forget to

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text people back, they write me and they're like, Hey, Kate,

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like, I didn't hear back from you. It's like, a month later,

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and I'm like, oh, cool, sorry, thanks for your patience. Like,

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I completely forgot. Like, it's not, not personal. You know it

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never, never is. If I don't, if I'm mad at someone, I'll tell

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them I'm not going to disappear. And if someone else is mad at

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you, and they disappear, that's really good information. That's

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called the avoidant isolator. Isolators disappear because it's

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so much more painful. The idea because they're not rooted in

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their sovereign woman or man, is so much more painful for an

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isolator avoidant to have to communicate truth, and like I

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said earlier, face being challenged, or having someone

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else show their feelings and the devastation on the other side of

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that that is so much more painful for them, so it's easier

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for them to just disappear. So stop taking it personally. It is

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not personal. There is a book called The Four Agreements. If

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you have not read it yet, you need to read it. Don Miguel

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Ruiz, it's super simple. That was my awakening book The Four

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Agreements. The agreements are, don't take things personally,

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don't make assumptions. Always do your best and speak with I

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think the last one is about integrity, but anyways, but the

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first two don't make assumptions and don't take things

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personally. Nothing is personal. Everybody's living in their own

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saboteurs with their own patterns and their own pain.

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It's not about you, right? You can either listen to Linda

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upstairs, your saboteur. Sorry for those of you named Linda.

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Listen Linda. There's a YouTube video of a little kid going,

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listen Linda to his mom. If you haven't seen it, it's hilarious.

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So I'm using Linda as the saboteur name. But listen, Linda

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like that is I hear you that you're that you believe all of

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these things, because this person disappeared, and it felt

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so good, I'm going to actually look at my side. Where was I in

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fantasy? Where was I projecting into the future. Where was I

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having expectations? Where was

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I shape shifting? Where was I showing up in my saboteur trying

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to get love, trying to get approval, trying to get

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something because it's an energetic right? We don't really

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attract people who are avoidant. When we're secure, when you have

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that secure whole relationship inside of yourself, you're not

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going to attract that, and even if you do, you're not even gonna

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care. It's like, Oh, thanks for showing me who you are. Bye, we

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might have some feelings if you felt strongly for the person,

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but you know, it's so much of our feelings, especially in the

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first like beginning of a relationship, our fantasy, our

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projection into the future, our projection of who we think this

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person is, because we felt good when we first met them, right?

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So, so check, check yourself. What is my side of the street?

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Where did I show up as the Wounded Little Girl in the

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saboteur? And how can I start to mentor her and love her and let

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her know she's safe and that I've got her no matter who shows

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up in our lives, if you have yourself, nothing can be taken

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from you. And they say, you know abandonment happens when we're

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kids, you can be abandoned, of course, because you are not

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safe. As a child, without adults present. However, as an adult,

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you cannot be abandoned. If someone leaves, it's because

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they chose to leave, even if they didn't write a note or tell

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you that they're leaving. That's still their choice, and they did

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it in the way that worked for them. And if it doesn't work for

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you, you got to work with that internally, because people are

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going to show up, but they're often mirroring your own

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patterns. They're going to show up how they show up, and you're

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going to learn more about yourself, and you're going to

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learn more about what matters to you, and then you stand in that

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sovereignty, like, Okay, I. When I attract love, what's important

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to me is someone who's an amazing communicator, someone

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who knows how to clearly communicate, how to share when

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something's to know how to be kind and considerate, but also

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own their side of the street and stand with and for themselves,

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just like I'm going to so I hope this episode expanded you

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remember, it's all an inside job. It is always an inside job.

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You have to take responsibility for your part and get out of the

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victim stories and the dramatization and all the

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fantasy and all the BS that we are immersed in when it comes to

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everything in life, but definitely relationship, dating

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and love. So love. You so much. Share this with every woman you

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know, and also if you're enjoying season two, no season

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meeting with my podcasting company. So would love it if you

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could share the spread the word with all your gal pals and write

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a review. Would be amazing. And also, I'm always, always ears to

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